Entry #215: Serving openly in military in Turkey

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RegionTurkey
IssueServing openly in military
StatusIllegal
Start Datepast
End Datenow
DescriptionMilitary personnel found to be homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness". Military service for 6 months is mandatory for all men in Turkey. In order to be exempt, gay men must prove homosexuality by providing photographic evidence of them being on the receiving end of anal intercourse.
Sourceshttps://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/sites/default/files/turkey_report_2020.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20160528102959/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2009/tr_rapport_2009_en.pdf
Reports (5)
  • Status is not correct "Being homosexual in military is indeed illegal but there seems to be no neccessity to show any evidence about anal intercourse. Sometimes even rumours can get you out."
  • Note field is incorrect "We no longer need to provide photos or videos. We just need to go through a medical check, which is a long process tho. For further questions, you can contact me through sullyfumayz @ gmail .com"
  • Newer law has been passed "Gay men don't need to prove a photograph anymore. They need to get a report called "Not eligible for military" which doesn't require a photograph. https://kaosgldernegi.org/images/library/2016ne-gre-escinsel-ve.pdf There's no such a thing as photographic proof in the Military Law. https://www.mevzuat.gov.tr/mevzuatmetin/1.3.1111.pdf Page 836-2 and 836-1."
  • Status is not correct "The law here for military is complicated but if you are a top only while having sex with a man as a man, you may join military but if the case is the opposite, the it is illegal."
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Revision History (3)

Revision by Samanthos. Fixed formulation

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DescriptionMilitary personnel homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness".

Military service for 6 months is mandatory for all men in Turkey.
In order to be exempt, gay men must prove homosexuality by providing photographic evidence of them being on the receiving end of anal intercourse.
Military personnel found to be homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness".

Military service for 6 months is mandatory for all men in Turkey.
In order to be exempt, gay men must prove homosexuality by providing photographic evidence of them being on the receiving end of anal intercourse.
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Military personnel homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness". Military service for 6 months is mandatory for all men in Turkey. In order to be exempt, gay men must prove homosexuality by providing photographic evidence of them being on the receiving end of anal intercourse. found to be homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness". Military service for 6 months is mandatory for all men in Turkey. In order to be exempt, gay men must prove homosexuality by providing photographic evidence of them being on the receiving end of anal intercourse.

Revision by Samanthos. Added top/bottom conditions

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DescriptionSecurity personal found to be homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness".Military personnel homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness".

Military service for 6 months is mandatory for all men in Turkey.
In order to be exempt, gay men must prove homosexuality by providing photographic evidence of them being on the receiving end of anal intercourse.
Show Difference
Security personal found to be homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness". Military personnel homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness". Military service for 6 months is mandatory for all men in Turkey. In order to be exempt, gay men must prove homosexuality by providing photographic evidence of them being on the receiving end of anal intercourse.
Sourceshttps://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/sites/default/files/turkey_report_2020.pdfhttps://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/sites/default/files/turkey_report_2020.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20160528102959/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2009/tr_rapport_2009_en.pdf
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https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/sites/default/files/turkey_report_2020.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/sites/default/files/turkey_report_2020.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20160528102959/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2009/tr_rapport_2009_en.pdf

Revision by beeurd

Old Value (Original) New Value
ValueLegalIllegal
DescriptionPassive (bottom) gay men are not allowed to serve in the Turkish military. Active (top) gay men are permitted to serve in the armed forces.Security personal found to be homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness".
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Passive (bottom) gay men are not allowed to serve in the Turkish military. Active (top) gay men are permitted to serve in the armed forces. Security personal found to be homosexual are dismissed under laws that classify homosexuality as a "psychosexual disorder/illness".
Sourceshttp://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2009/tr_rapport_2009_en.pdfhttps://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/sites/default/files/turkey_report_2020.pdf
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http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2009/tr_rapport_2009_en.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/sites/default/files/turkey_report_2020.pdf
Reports (26)
  • Status is not correct "Homosexuality is being stated as “psychosexual disorder” in pink certificate that is given to ‘bottom’ men who are excused from Turkish Army. Top men are still allowed. Because of “only receivers are gay” mentality in Turkey, bottom men are discriminated and EU report linked as source highlights this. "
  • Status is not correct "Source says it's illegal"
  • Durum do?ru de?il "Top or bottom, no open gays are allowed."
  • Note field is incorrect "Source doesn't support information"
  • Status is not correct "There is no mention of this in the attached document"
  • Status is not correct "Homosexuals are not allowed in the military per the linked source."
  • Status is not correct "source doesnt say that"
  • Status is not correct
  • Status is not correct "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Europe"
  • Note field is incorrect "As far as i know it doesnt matter if you bottom or up. And how they gonna know that. But a lgbt person can get "pembe teskere" from a hospital that states he is not mandatory to go to the military if he/she is lgbt"
  • Status is not correct "Turkish military doesn't accept except heterosexuals."
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  • Status is not correct "In turkish army any kind of homosexuality is not allowed.Even top(active) ones https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Turkey#:~:text=In%20Turkey%2C%20compulsory%20military%20service,from%20serving%20in%20the%20military."
  • Status is not correct "Having checked the given source, there is no information about any judicial statement about the incompatibility of 'passive' gays in the military in Turkey. As an ex-soldier who did my mandatory military service in the country and openly identified myself as gay during the service, I completed it without any official obstacle. Even though there were many homophobic experiences, no official asked me if I am 'bottom' or 'top'. "
  • Status is not correct "The document provided states that homosexuals are unfit for the military."
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  • Status is not correct "Regardless of your preference in sex, if you're gay you can't be in the army."
  • Status is not correct "All gay men are allowed to serve."
  • Note field is incorrect "Any indication or declaration of one's homosexuality would cause a possible disapproval/disturbance. Also, transmen are completely excluded from military services regardless of their will."
  • Other "DADA-style law."
  • Status is not correct "Engaging in homosexual intercourse is criminal offence in the Turkish military, legally speaking, it doesn't matter if the person is passive or active (although, the perception may differ)"
  • Status is not correct "actually in turks gay people have to go millitary it doesn't matter top or bottom. Bot if you have sex in solidier they are calling ur parents and they r telling " came here and take your girl" ... Edit plz ! "
  • Note field is incorrect "Passive ones can serve in the millitary, too. But they can choose not to serve since military service in Turkey is forced. Gay men when they prove to be gay they can choose not to serve. "
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  • Status is not correct "Both top and bottom gay men can serve in military. They just don't reveal themselves. While being top is better than being bottom, they both seem unnatural and impulsive."

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